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There’s A Girl On The Internet: Chauvinism in MMORPGs

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STOP THE PRESSES

Though I’m fully aware that it makes me a tragic human being, I play EVE Online, having moved to it from World of Warcraft after hitting the level cap there and finding nothing else to do – unless, of course, I started talking, interacting, and then raiding with people I didn’t know to start with. Because I’m an antisocial bastard sometimes, this didn’t appeal.

Fortunately, a few years ago, a friend of mine told me about EVE. She told me that it was an MMORPG for grown-ups, with a far more open world, an older playerbase that managed to keep the clarity that it was essentially a game about internet spaceships, and generally a more interesting and rewarding experience. I gave CCP, the EVE developers, a bit of money, and created my character. I then proceeded to get hopelessly hooked on a game that was playable in any mood, whether you just wanted to do some sedate mining and chatting, explore and learn about the backstory the sights to be seen, or run around space blowing stuff up.

She was absolutely right about the majority of the playerbase. This isn’t a game for teenagers with ADHD. It’s fast-paced in the microcosm but slow-paced in the grand scheme of things, unforgiving of short-term failure, and exceptionally deep. People were pleasant. Even when combative, in a world where the loss of a ship has significant consequences, you’ll almost always see “GF” in local chat, from both sides, when a player vs. player battle finishes – meaning “good fight”. It’s a game about internet spaceships. Everyone remembers that.

What EVE does have in common with WoW, however, is unremitting chauvinism.

If you have a female avatar, you can expect nonstop trash talk about your menstrual cycle. If you demonstrate that you are in fact female outside of a combat situation, you will be unable to interact as a player for all the clunkily catapulted flirting that is launched in your general direction.

Great example: I listen to EVE Radio, and pay a premium subscription, because it’s genuinely brilliant. Fantastic range of DJs playing a fantastic range of music, with intelligent discussion about stuff both in-game and in the real world, and organised events.

Tonight, a female DJ came on, and the in-game EVE Radio channel devolved into a disgusting mess of testosterone and pseudo-adolescent lust. Let’s look at some of the ‘intelligent discourse’ that DJ Violent Cupcake ended up getting. Player names are redacted because it feels like the right thing to do.

         

And my personal favourite -

Stay classy, EVE Online. Now, I know that this is just one situation, but I’ve seen stuff like this happening in local chat all over the EVE universe, and the same holds true for my time playing World of Warcraft. Gendered comments are used to smack talk or flirt when someone believes a player to be female, but there’s no gendered language between males.

Female players can be one of two things: the false stereotype of the unskilled female player, or ‘hot’, ‘sexy’ or ‘fit’ because they play a mostly male-dominated game. What it seems that they can’t be is skilled players in their own right, where gender is an irrelevance.

I know that I’m sounding humourless about this, but I genuinely think there’s nothing funny about pushing someone out of a group that they want to contribute to and be part of simply because of their gender.

Am I on the money here? Do you play WoW, EVE or another MMORPG and see or experience what I’m talking about, or am I just frequently in the wrong place at the wrong time and oversensitive to gender inequality? I’d love to hear from you, lovely readership. Pop a comment in below if you’ve got opinions on this one.

Written by dave

January 26th, 2012 at 12:01 am

Posted in Equality,Geek

  • Choco

    It’s not an MMO, but the Call of Duty games are horrendous if you play online as a girl. 

    • Hellen

      Yeah I’ve always been very put off of playing CoD live, even though the majority of my friends who play the game (incidently, all men) play live all the time. I hear about the amount of ‘fag’ abuse they have to deal with and can imagine exactly what awaits me…

      • Choco

        The fantastic thing with MW3 now is that you can simply get into a party chat with your friends when you play in most game types, and you don’t have to tune into the game chat at all – so you don’t even have to hear the other players, much less listen to their abuse. It’s wonderful :)

  • verdantstar

    You forgot to mention all the friendly gay banter that goes on too…

    Totally agree, I’ve also witnessed people’s behaviour changing when they found out that a controversial poster on one of the forums was a woman. The debate changed instantly from the subject to the poster.

  • Rach

    I’ve had a bunch of different experiences actually – it’s been a few years though since I was social in an MMO (WoW in my case usually).

    There was a raid way back in vanilla where my raiding alliance were in MC (so 40 people on the chat program we used (ventrillo/vent)).  I used to talk on vent and I spent an entire raid with some kid asking me if I was really young or a girl.  Capitals, repeating himself, he thought I must be faking it or using a voice changer or something.

    But when it counts, the two best guilds I’ve been in have been co-run by women and whenever I’ve raid-led, I’ve never had anyone question what I say.  So whether that was a shift in attitudes over time or just pot luck, I do not know.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been playing EVE for nearly two years now and, although I’ve never personally experienced chauvinism (one of my avatars is female), I can’t honestly say that I’m surprised. Having said that, I’ve never bothered with Local chat except where necessary (fleet roams), mainly because it seems to be full of smacktalk and one-up(wo?)manship. It certainly hasn’t happened in any of the three PC coprs (EVE Uni, Griffin Capsuleers and I’ve been involved in because they’ve all been straight up and deadly about that sort of thing. Racism, sexism, all the -isms (including WoWism) are stomped on quickly and firmly, which I’ve always admired and supported.

    The only thing that has given me cause for complaint is the occasional casual use of “rape”, when referring to ship kills, and even then a quiet word with a forum moderator has resulted in a quick change of text and, presumably, a word of warning to the offender.

  • http://lassarina.dreamwidth.org/ Lassarina

    I think you’ve hit the nail exactly on the head here.  As someone who is female and a gamer, I have gotten this myself in online experiences; also, it’s recorded frequently over at The Border House blog, which I frequent.  My handle is more or less the same everywhere online; I’ve gotten some really obnoxious messages via Xbox Live, which I don’t even usually play.  I’ve personally known women who had to stop playing altogether on XBL (and other services) because of the harassment they were getting–the sort of stuff in that chat?  Was being said directly to these women.

  • KTscribbles

    Oh gosh, where does one begin?:) I’ve played many, many MMOs from text based muds to Rift and am looking forward (ish) to Secret Worlds. The sexist trash talk is…tiresome, and constant. Adds a whole extra level to the run of the mill teen griefer/bot hassles. It’s not just sexist TT either, its the endless homophobic, and in a fair few cases racist comments that spam the airways. You can turn local shouts and chat off in most games, and you will find like minded souls if you play long enough who you can group with and perhaps form a guild, but you are creating a bubble. I can’t think why all those black, female, transgendered Devs let this type of thing go on…Oh wait a minute.